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  • #13553
    @gohar

    1. Which has a better career, Selenium with Python or Selenium with Java?
    2. Which is widely used and why?
    3. Which is powerful?

    #13589
    @abir11khan

    @gohar, I am not a Selenium expert, but If you want to start with selenium you can start with a language that you think you can have more help from your surroundings like with a language that your development team uses.

    Learning a programming language is not a very short term process, you have to have good help and patience.

    #13592
    @ronan

    @alexsiminiuc might be able to answer this for you. He writing the Selenium series on the Huddle currently.

    #13594
    @gohar

    Thank you @ronan 🙂 I will contact with him 🙂

    #13639
    @kasper

    Career wise I would go with Java.
    Java is more used in commercial applications than Python and so you can integrate better with development.

    Which is more widely used is more difficult to answer. My guess will be Java for the reasons stated above, but Python is much easier to learn and understand for non programmers.

    They are both powerful (as is C# for that matter). The functionality of Selenium does not change with the programming language.
    The programming language is used to code test functions for example in a Cucumber – Selenium – Java/C#/Python stack.
    So, if I want to test a login field I will use code to get the field from the Selenium Web driver and perform some actions on it.
    I will then use the Web Driver to collect the results and again code will determine if the results are conform expectations.

    #13666
    @eviltester

    1. Which has a better career, Selenium with Python or Selenium with Java?

    The better career would have you learn a programming language well, and independently of Selenium. Because you are going to want to write code to a high standard and create good abstraction layers. You will develop that skill by learning a programming language well and learning design skills.

    You might be looking for ‘which will get me a job fastest’? And for that you could see answer to question 2 below.

    I know people using WebDriver with Java, .Net and Ruby but not many using Python.

    If you are learning this for you own development then choose the programming language you find easier to learn.

    I personally think that Java and .Net are easier for beginners to learn than Python since the IDE will help and the syntax error checking is done at compile time rather than runtime.

    It also depends who you have access to, when you are learning. Perhaps you could use the programming language that you or the developers use at work so you can get help from the people you work with. And what books/online training you have access to.

    I think there is probably more information available about using Selenium with Java, than with Python. But again – have a look at the material out there and see which you understand most readily then follow that path..

    2. Which is widely used and why?

    Both are widely used.

    Do you have a target employer in mind? Or a target industry? If so, use the one which the company or industry sector seem to use most.

    Thing is, when you learn to code well, you can pick up other languages fairly quickly.

    3. Which is powerful?

    Both are powerful. Both work well with Selenium. Both have a very extensive library eco-system so you can do pretty much anything you want in either.

    #13675
    @aleksandra-kornecka

    hey @gohar! The @eviltester got the points in my opinion and I would add: IT DEPENDS 😀 it depends on what project you work on. If you already code then it is not so important what do you choose until there are some project-specific criteria.
    It’s hard to give just the advice: go Python, or go Java.
    Python is high-level language so looks easier, but in fact you need better understand what is going on “under the carpet” there. Java seems to be still more widely used. But Selenium works good with both 🙂

    I would suggest another thing: maybe you need something abother than Selenium 😮 ?

    #13687

    Len
    @lennart-tange

    There are tons of statistics you can base your choice on, career wise, e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016

    Java looks like the ‘safe’ choice.
    It’s not entirely binary, I personally think, because its high-level, Python allows cleaner code, but also easier to make mistakes in…
    I’m therefore convinced, by learning python you’d eventually become a better java programmer.

    I’d also base my choice on the rest of my team.
    I’ve set up Selenium with Ruby, Java and JavaScript for different teams. The team’s background always played a key role in making the choice.
    If you have people who are already familiar with one language and aren’t easily picking up a new one, go for that language.
    Careerwise, this is good to consider. If others are able to pick your work, you can grow into other positions.

    #20479
    @gracylayla

    What is Python?

    Python is a high-level object-oriented scripting language. It is designed in a user-friendly manner. Python uses simple English keywords, which is easy to interpret. It has less syntax complications than any other programming languages.

    What is Selenium?

    Selenium is a robust set of tools that supports rapid development of test automation for web-based applications. Selenium provides a rich set of testing functions specifically geared to the needs of testing of a web application. These operations are highly flexible, allowing many options for locating UI elements and comparing expected test results against actual application behaviour.

    Why Selenium with Python?

    It is easy for coding and also easily readable

    Runs faster while comparing other programming

    Also provides Dynamic Typing Nature

    More number of programmers using Python

    What is selenium with python?

    Selenium is an open-source web-based automation tool. Python language is used with Selenium for testing. It has far less verbose and easy to use than any other programming language. The Python APIs empower you to connect with the browser through Selenium.

    Selenium Python bindings provides a simple API to write functional/acceptance tests using Selenium WebDriver. Through Selenium Python API you can access all functionalities of Selenium WebDriver in an intuitive way.

    Selenium Python bindings provide a convenient API to access Selenium WebDrivers like Firefox, Ie, Chrome, Remote etc.

    Python language is used with Selenium for testing. It has far less verbose and easy to use than any other programming language. The Python APIs empower you to connect with the browser through Selenium. Selenium can send the standard Python commands to different browsers, despite variation in their browser’s design.

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    #21398
    @sagarleo1

    Python is a good language, no doubt about it and works pretty well with Selenium. But there are number of reasons to choose Java for Selenium:

    a) Java is a more powerful language and has been evolving regularly. It is likely to keep pace with changing times and that means that it will be able to constantly provide you more efficient code writing ability. This becomes significantly more important because- As Selenium automation testers, your growth should be taking you towards becoming Automation framework architects. One of skills required for being an automation framework architect is the ability to write code. More power of the language will definitely help.

    b) Selenium with Java community is much larger and it means that, if you are stuck, you will have plenty of support available to get out of that.

    So it makes good sense to go with Java.

    #21410
    @vrazvan

    All the comments above are valid, but I would give a simpler response to your question: IT DEPENDS.

    Choosing a language to create automated tests depends on specific details used by the project that you want to test.

    For example, if you want to create automated tests for a web app developed using Angular (js framework), then you should use Selenium + JavaScript (Protractor framework). If you want to create automated tests for a web app developed using React (js framework), then you should also use Selenium + JavaScript (WebDriverIO framework).

    Choosing between python or java is just a personal preference, both of them can do the same things. From my point of view, Java is more popular in QA automation. Using a python framework like Robot can provide you the same results tho.

    #21910
    @padmaraj

    I think as Tester now we need to be more and more language agnostic with testing.  “because testing principles stay same and top it! we are automating!”

    Of-course its take time to learn new programming languages. Working in different projects with test automation help you to be a “language agnostic “

    #22529
    @remote4me

    I believe you need a scripting language to use with Selenium.

    So Java is not a good choice — you have to COMPILE the scripts first. So I would go with Python.

    #22534
    @kathrynproffitt

    Choosing a language to create automated tests depends on specific details used by the project that you want to test

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